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February 05, 2008

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Shpackov Alexander Andreevich

Dr. Nova!
"The Universal Classification of Intelligent" is methodoligical mistake, and it show that You have not understand classification theory. It speaks: "Universal Classification is single scheme, and it is impossible to exist such soject like "Universal Classification of Intelligent". Classification of intelligence may be only part of the thrue Universal Classification /Shpackov A.A. J. Am. Soc. Inf. Sci, v. 43, no. 10, 1992/.

Robert Wilson

Dear Nova:

A universal classification of intelligence is not possible, as long as we focus on the word classification. Put another way, our penchant, at this stage of our collective evolution, for categories as a precondition for understanding, damages or taints the nature of intelligence (however it may be defined), in the same way that our minds affect the outcome and reality of quantum events. Categories distort. Is intelligence a subset of consciousness or is consciousness a subset of intelligence? The "map" is in constant motion and cuts across dimensions we grasp as well as those dimensions beyond our grasp (both consciously and unconsciously -- both of which in turn can be distinguished from consciousness in a Jungian collective sense and a Sheldrakian morphic resonance sense and Castanedian dream sense). Part of the challenge today is to realize that it is intelligence that has brought us to the brink. At least in this bottom line view, the "geniuses" amongst us have created a world that is imploding -- at least potentially for our species. If Gaia is an intelligence, then the task (our task) is to link intelligence firmly to our individual and collective imaginations as the only anchor to make this world a better place. Treating imagination as the Christ, the realization and manifestation of God in man/woman (Christ in this sense has no religious affiliation). Raising consciousness to create a healthier planet is a first step. The world's great universities are producing geniuses it is true, but genius without consciousness is exactly what brought us the Nazis. The "rating" of intelligence is simply more of this same mentality. In your piece, there is a back and forth motion between mind (in a monstrously broad sense) and brain which serves as cognitive sciences' anchor. The universal classification impulse then is an exercise that repeats a paradigm. Kashmir Shavism holds a key: namely, that there is "nothing out there" -- it is all, absolutely all of it, both the universe and nothingness, in our mind(s). We are in short, what you are looking for.

Paul Coffey

Nova - pardon me for bringing you back down to Earth (no pun intended) but, don't you think it is a little self-aggrandizing to even assume that we could be capable of a *Universal* Classification of Intelligence.
How do we know that our UCI - borne from finite, minuscule knowledge of the universe - could accommodate the various yet-to-be-uncovered intelligences that you talk of?


Francis Shanahan

Nova, very interesting topic, here's my response...[
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Andreas Beer

Try this first:

Compile a list of cognitive skills.

It is one of my tasks, that I want to write down for the wikipedia, but it's really amazing that with cognitive scientists being all over the world, none of them has ever created a systematic list of skills. They all say something like "memory, deciding, planning, etc." The etc. is up to us to find out, it seems. I googled a lot, I have a book on Cognitive Science, none answers the question.

But I think for your idea, this is an absolute sine qua non. If you want to join in on this project, let me know :)

zeb hodge

This is really intriguing, Nova!

What IS intelligence? I mean, sure, I know it when I see it, but you're talking about discerning evidences of intelligence, sometimes before seeing them.

In this context, what is "intelligence"? The answer is probably as difficult as a universal classification would be!

Still, I agree that it is a worthy pursuit. I believe it will become easier to answer these questions as this Collective Intelligence (enabled in its embryonic stage by semantic technologies) begins to encompass more of humanity, because doing so will give us a better handle of WHAT intelligence is.

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